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24 November 2012 @ 11:19 pm
Raydor/Flynn questions and Ships  
I've read some stories that mention that Raydor and Flynn knew each other before the Closer. Is that true?

And if anyone is interested in talking about their ships, explain why you ship a certain pairing?
 
 
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rococo: Sharon Cow Blouse Leansrococoms on November 26th, 2012 01:21 am (UTC)
I don't think anything was ever specifically mentioned in The Closer of Raydor and Flynn knowing each other before, but it's certainly become a strong part of fanon. From my understanding, it's based mostly on the fact that in the episode "Old Money" Flynn calls Sharon first right after he is stabbed- ostensibly to report that he fired his weapon, and her reaction when she gets on the scene and he's loosing blood seems to be a little stronger than someone she just happens to know recently through MC...

As for ships, I know I'm quite fond of Sharon/Andy, and if I had my dithers, that'd be what I'd hope for in canon- and that's because I do take what happened in Old Money as a sign there was something between them once- perhaps not romantic, but some kind of friendship or partnership; but also because I think the two of them work off each other really well, and I think they'd be good for each other. I don't really see Provenza/Sharon, and I didn't really see Sharon/Pope when he was around, though I know there were people who really did.

But having said that, one thing I love about fandom is that everyone has different things they see in their different ships- and exploring that is lots of fun. I've been convinced of plenty of ships thanks to the work of talented writers that I never would have expected, Sharon/Brenda, Sharon/Hobbs, Sharon/Fritz and Sharon/Pope among them. And until the writers give us any kind of canon pairing, all ships are just as fanon as one another.

Edited at 2012-11-26 07:56 am (UTC)
Cookiedlcookie on November 26th, 2012 01:45 am (UTC)
The Raydor/Flynn previous connection is all fan theory. There has never been any allusion to them knowing each other prior to Raydor's first investigation 3 years ago, that I recall. However it seems fairly reasonable to assume that longtime career officers would know each other from different contexts. We just have to wait until the writers enlighten us. Even though Raydor is now the centre of Major Crimes, the writers have still been rather limited with information about her.

As for ships, Raydor presents an interesting challenge because Mary McDonnell seems to be able to have sexual chemistry with EVERYONE. I don't know another actor who can have that level of sexual chemistry in every single conversation she has in character. I think the reason Flynn seems such a no-brainer ship is because they are so pretty together, and Tony Denison is a complete fanboy. (Personally, I think the chemistry between Raydor and Fritz is off the charts, bur for obvious reasons that one will never, ever happen.)
TwylightQueentwylightqueen on November 26th, 2012 03:47 am (UTC)
I can see why Flynn is an obvious pairing but it just seems to me that his personality doesn't mix well with hers. I can't put my finger on it but there is just something about him that doesn't seem right with her. Honestly I think that's why I ship Raydor/Provenza. His personality seems better for her.
Bella  (Isabella): MC~Tony/Mary ~Restmamabelladonna on November 26th, 2012 04:42 am (UTC)
I am a total Sharon/Andy Shipper as many of you know. I just think that they have so much chemistry, the kind where opposites attract. Someone here said that Tony is a total fanboy and I agree I think that contributes to their onscreen chemistry. I always wondered why he called Sharon in “Old Money” to and it does leave it open to conjecture and I think that this episode is prime for that, also I just think that people just like to give them a jaded history for angst and it makes good fodder for a story especially how they acted, especially Andy, when they first started to work together and then the scene after the events of Old Money where they had that little tiff in about his jacket (and it was huge lol) I also think that they look good together, it boils down to their chemistry in my opinion there is something about is also that you just can’t but your finger on.

As far as other relationships, I can’t see her with Provenza at all, but I can with Fritz, I do like that story where they are having an affair. However, I am not a complete shipper of those two. I am definitely not a Brenda/Sharon or Hobbs/Sharon Shipper, she is completely Het just how she is portrayed in the series. I think that having her husband coming and wreaking havoc is a good story line, especially when Flynn is involved along with their kids and his ex..
akachankami: sharonakachankami on November 26th, 2012 08:25 am (UTC)
i'm a total sharon/andy shipper XD for all the reasons that have been listed here.

as for the fanon previous relationship i don't see a romantic one but i assume they knew each other by name when she first came to the show because they call her 'captain raydor' without anyone ever introducing her to the team... and then she's on speed dial on andy's phone when he's attacked! and my shippy heart skipped a beat XD

even if the writers are giving provenza the 'opposite attract' kind of relationship with sharon i'm hoping for my ship to be canon one day... they have that kind of instant understanding from the beginning of MC! i laughed at andy's dirty looks at provenza every time he was rude XD he likes her! and that's quite canon if not yet romantic =)
Cookiedlcookie on November 26th, 2012 09:43 am (UTC)
I think all the men mentioned so far bring something unique with Raydor. Provenza brings that sense of Old Work Horse. Those two have seen it a few times over and have the same sarcastic ability to deal. However, he's a horndog and seems challenged to see woman as equals. Fritz has the most class of the lot, and that really resonates with Sharon's sense of latent 'aristocracy'. However, he's taken (though didn't you just love the looks Sharon gives him from time to time, suggesting a very personal connection, lol.) Flynn (and I'll admit, I wasn't totally sold in the beginning because he is so rough in TC) has that slow, warm charm that gets under a person's skin and before you know, you're hooked. I do think they are writing him differently on Major Crimes, and building the connection naturally between Sharon and Andy, which makes is such a natural ship. He was the first to fall in line, the first to openly challenge her, the first to follow her lead, and the first to stand up for her. He has also been portrayed as her natural 'partner' with issues involving Rusty.

I don't think their past connection is romantic, and I don't think their current connection will be romantic anytime soon, but I do think there is great potential for the pair towards the end of the series' run, and I do think in the meantime Fandom is providing us with some very real possibilities.
oli4: The Closer / Sharon&Brenda / viewa_proposito on November 26th, 2012 10:51 am (UTC)
i used to ship Sharon/Brenda on The Closer (still ship it, ngl), mostly because there was this crazy chemistry between them. as for Major Crimes, i have to say i don't really ship Sharon with anyone. i honestly don't see Sharon/Andy at all, same goes for Sharon/Hobbs. even Sharon/Provenza makes more sense for me than the other two. yeah, maybe i ship them a tiny bit but probably in a platonic way. but i really think that if she dates someone, it should be a character outside of MCD. also i'm dying to see that ex-husband of hers!
TwylightQueentwylightqueen on November 26th, 2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
Maybe the writers need to write a character for her that doesn't work with her. I was thinking about it and it does not seem like normal for someone that follows the rules so strictly would break the rules to date someone in the squad.
oli4: MC / Sharon / smirka_proposito on November 26th, 2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
yes, i agree. i think, if any they should give her an outside love interest.
astreamofstars: sharon yellowastreamofstars on November 26th, 2012 01:46 pm (UTC)
I'm not deeply besotted with any ship on MC yet, though Sharon/Andy is the one I like the best. He seems like a genuinely good guy, good sense of humour, and I like the way he backed her right from almost the first episode. Aside from that one moment where he confronted her, he's been right by her side the whole time, and seems to be a little protective of her. And, as has been said, he seemed to become genuinely protective of Rusty before any of the others did either.

The fact that Tony Denison adores Mary and so has a tendency to gaze at Sharon affectionately all the time doesn't hurt, either.

I think what I'd love to see with them would be a real slow burn thing, if it were ever to happen. Andy would be in love with her for a long while before she really realised.

However, what I really want is to learn a lot more about Sharon first. I definitely want her to have a love interest of some kind down the line, but we need to spend some time learning who she is on her own before opening her up to that, in my opinion. Most of season one was taken up with Rusty's story. Let's hope season two revolves around Sharon's.
Duty & Devotion: mc sharon textureroseandheather on November 26th, 2012 07:33 pm (UTC)
I fell passionately in love with Brenda/Sharon on The Closer, and I still love it, but I also ship Sharon/Andy which... was unexpected to say the least.

I also kind of secretly ship Sharon/Tao even though I know it will never ever happen. Ditto Sharon/Buzz.

So basically if Mary McDonnell looks at someone I ship Sharon with them, apparently. IDEK. ALL THE THINGS EVERYONE SAID.
our little life is rounded with a sleep: Raydor/Hobbs defyingnormalcy on November 27th, 2012 12:02 am (UTC)
I am a pretty generic shipper in this fandom. :)

I like any and all ships so long as they are between adults and are consensual; the great thing about a young(ish) show like this is that there are no canon pairings just yet. Most of the cast are single, so that really opens up shipping possibilities.

Personally, I am really enjoying Hobbs/Raydor. I feel like both women are on the same level intellectually, and I think that they could have common interests - theatre, music, literature, etc. While I realize that TNT will never actually make this happen, (damn you TNT and your refusal to do a queer storyline/relationship justice) but that doesn't take away from me enjoying it. :) I'd be happy if in canon they'd end up as very good friends. :)

I also like the Flynn/Raydor ship, and I've written for the Johnson/Raydor fandom. I think that MM has wonderful chemistry with her coworkers, so it's easy to ship her character with many of the others. :)
xiratania007xiratania007 on December 12th, 2012 08:14 am (UTC)
The first episode of Major Crimes that I saw was ep 9. Cheaters never Prosper. That was an excellent Sharon/Andy ep so I had a ship by the end of the episode. Of course, I devoured the rest of the episodes immediately after seeing that one. Then I watched all of The Closer. I have come to realize while I love Sharon/Andy, I can ship anyone with anyone from the two shows. Fanfic does naughty things to the brain, it all becomes one big ship.

I do not think Sharon and Andy had a thing in the past, even though I enjoy reading about it. I notice people started to question when she called him Andy. Sharon also called Mike Tao by his name in an episode, and she referred to Amy by name. She called Andy by his name twice. So there may be more to it. I think it has more to do with when she was investigating him. Sharon said,"“Most officer’s packages, Lieutenant, are about this big. Yours is huge!” I do not know how any of them kept a straight face during that scene. So, she spent a lot of time going through everything about him. It would have to make her feel like she knows him more personally than the others.

Since this does involve ships I thought I would add a numbers game to the mix. I tallied up all the times Sharon goes to an autopsy, interviews, or questions a person, and who she takes with her.

The numbers have spoken. Sharon has a favorite!

Raydor/Hobbs 1x
Raydor/Fritz 3x
Raydor/Sanchez 4x
Raydor/Tao 4x
Raydor/Provenza 5x
Raydor/Flynn 8x
(Did I miss a Raydor/Sykes one?)

The winner of who Sharon takes most anywhere is Lieutenant Andy Flynn! They really do play well off one another.

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